The thought of home is something that is written into the heart of every human being; while often times it brings to mind a physical house or location, it goes deeper. IMHO what you point out is important. I dont know what it means to be disobedient to the Pope even when doing so would help to save souls. What would such an occasion look like for me as a layman? Dear Alarico, Nor is it a personal attack on you. Denton, NE (Seminary) I DARE him to try and dispute me. Unfortunately, people who follow Bergoglio are not Catholic. these are mostly priests that *belonged* to the SSPX. 5: Seattle, WA North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA The rules and commands originated with a person. You do not have to rehash your reasons why you hate Mr. Matts opinion as I just re-read your words and the responders here on this link: Father Flood has served his term(s) and is more than ready to go back to parish work. Colorado Springs, CO the requirement that adults not be alone with minors).. Scranton, PA The pope has no authority to bind anyone to that which goes against the Catholic faith. There is no other way for mankind to have been saved and redeemed except through the sacrificial offering of God Himself, totally innocent and obedient, to God the Father. I give you credit. No status means just that none. I too have been guilty of using the combox to lay off my personal frustrations, and I have also used uncharitable language. We start to get sloppy; our fallen tendency to search out the path of least resistance becomes more insistent. Over the course of the last three days, Michael Voris has put his unholy obsession with the SSPX on display via some 30 minutes of video (with the promise of more to come) featuring over four thousand words a portion of which was allegedly plagiarized (but more on that in a moment. Don't forget to buy yourself a copy here! Yes, I feel certain that this unfortunate behavior comes from both sides of the aisle (so to speak). Even Pope St. Pius X refrained from making that kind of judgment against the modernists, even as he condemned them with great force in Pascendi. Fraternity Publications The Church is a home, and that is because it begins with a Person, Jesus Christ, true God and true Man. So, what exactly will change at the stroke of twelve? The Pope grants (to what he may consider the schismatic) SSPX jurisdiction to grant absolution. Fr. I literally admire your use of sarcasm & I must admit, its well executed & actually appreciated. The SSPX is not and never has been in schism. ***The aforementioned Catholics do not include the SSPX, who fit into a seperate category, not to be further delineated here, not bc it's complicated-it's not. Many Catholics, most Catholics, in fact, dont really know very much at all, if anything, about this group which has been around in one form or another since 1988, as one way of counting The Society came about in response, reaction to the overall weakening of the Church and many of Her leaders, which has been an ongoing process since the 1960s. This is, however, a multi-edged sword. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz close friend of the FSSP and has does many ordinations for them excommunicated the SSPX in his diocese. Fr. Catholics are watching and waiting. These are the signs of an unstable mind. Checks can be written to "Mission Tradition." New - Meal Train - Calling all those who want to grow in love of neighbor! The threats certainly have increased in intensity in recent years; even the lukewarm Christian can sense this and perhaps feels the need to join in the resistance and push back. This argument is fair enough; objective reality isnt subject to legal pronouncements. http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f072_DivMercy.htm. Chesapeake, VA Faithful Catholics do not have time to be having this debate with the Synod just around the corner. http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false158.htm There is also, to borrow Voris words, an objective case of jurisdiction, and the legal/subjective case of jurisdiction. I know one FSSP priest ONE that has publicly said the SSPX is not in schism. Sacred Heart Church Location: 1020 Capitol Ave - Fort Wayne, IN 46806 Mass Time: Sun 11:30 am Phone number: (219) 744-2519 Priest: Fr Daniel Leeuw Search. I remember that you detested this video and Michael Matts opinion here because I recall that you commented on it when it first came out. German-speaking Chaplain Father Gerald Gesch. ARCHDIOCESAN SYNOD 2022 Listening to audio sancto raised much concern for me a long, long ago. Father Josef Bisig. He deleted from his website any and all references to his former positions; as well as the segments that include me; a 13 part Vatican II series among them. Nothing more and probably less. This is not the place to debate the sedavacantist position. Saguto was removed for violating rules about not being alone with a minor apparently. It cannot be said in correct, exact, and precise terms that there is a schism. (4) What you all may be missing and maybe why Voris is really hitting this now, is that FSSP doesnt have a bishop, but if perverse Fairy Whore(hey!) ** One single Traditional Catholic College in the whole United States operating with the approval of the local ordinary was just too much to ask. He knows very well (as he and I had discussed in some detail on more than one occasion) that the SSPX came about as a very direct response to the errors of the Second Vatican Council and the deplorable theology of the Novus Ordo Missae. Lets move to Louies next post! Lets revisit what Voris (and Fr. Gerard Saguto, FSSP We all have blind spots about ourselves and situations we may be in, and the realization of such things can be quite the exercise in humility. Those of us who dont have a dog in the fight would rather read about something more important. But they didnt. The clerics involved in the taken down of Fisher Moore College and these many attacks on the SSPX need to seek out an exorcist. But if the situation is such that no connection whatsoever with the rest of the Church can be justified, then what you really have to be advocating is full-blown sedevacantism. Im curious as to why hes no longer in charge (though im not surprised). Sacrificate sacrificium justitiae, et sperate in Domino, Telephone: (570) 842-4000Fax: (570) 319-9770info@fssp.com, Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter450 Venard RoadSouth Abington Township, PA 18411, SupportPrivacy PolicyMachine Readable Files, Adjutorium Program (Masses for Living and Deceased Members), Webinar Today: St. John Bosco Camp Application Launch. I have spoken to/communicated with exactly two FSSP priests in my life. We wait for the coming of the Son of God-made-Man, the focal point of all history, the only God there is, born to hang on a Cross and redeem us from our sins. In our Catholic life they are usually priests and bishops and this is being done by many of them. But this is a rabbit hole I dont want to take the conversation down.). ******** I must admit, I am not a typical traditionalist but have read my way through hours of debate over the defense of tradition and have come across many resources, such as this forum, that have given me a formation that I wouldnt have guessed having even just 5 years ago while still assuming that I am even to this day light years away. marian, I will say this: Stay away from the FSSP, Taylor Marshall and CMTV. Terra as hes still not quite 100% in his health. Servant of our lady i looked at your two links and read them again. Fort Wayne, IN So let me go on record here by saying that I will gladly sit with Michael Voris on a live program to discuss specific reasons why no Catholic should ever be forced to sign off on Vatican II as an integral part of tradition.. We are semi-contemplative Marian Sisters, which means that, while we pray the full Divine Office in common and have 1-1/2 hour of mental prayer each day, we also . Voris linked directly to the FSSP site in Scotland in his attacks on Catholics in the SSPX. Tulsa, OK Many excellent leaders in the Church, good holy men and women, recognize the exact same problems, but they havent left. I would submit that a reasonably well-formed Catholic of average intelligence can indeed arrive at a high degree of certainty that the dictates of the post-conciliar popes with respect to the SSPX (as it concerns issues surrounding Vatican II and the new Mass) are not manifestations of the will of the Father. (2) Re: courage or lack thereof of FSSP priests, funniest thing I ever saw was on the Remnant pic of priest all decked out in battle fatigues including bush hat w/the headline Will You (i.e. Dear DeMaria and my2cents, Besides its probable connection to ChurchMilitant.coms zeal against the SSPX, the unraveling of Fisher More College (the presidents fiscal leadership aside) is a stark study just how quickly Church power will coalesce to suppress an institution whose express mission is Traditional Catholic Formation (unless of course the institution was grandfathered in and has swallowed every conciliar tenet proffered since grandfather died). ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. every single SSPX priest and bishop is committing a mortal sin when he offers Mass. All rights reserved. I hope for the sake of the salvation of souls and the good of the Church that the whole story is known. Gerard Saguto, FSSP was born and lived on Long Island, where his mother continues to live. NEWS & ADVICE. Louie does a fine job of using his layman status in the correct way, although he steps over the line on occasion. Michael Voris is kidding himself if he thinks for even a moment that he is any way comparable to the SSPX as it concerns addressing the present crisis in the Church. I dont remember reading anywhere that Sr. Lucy said that diabolical disorientation would be the sole purview of liberals or modernists. This is my weak attempt at trying to make things easier for new readers etc to understand the different positions. ****** You are supporting evil. Fort Worth, TX It was taking the faith seriously that led me to become sedevacantist and it is taking the faith seriously, that my family is going to hell (literally) which led me to break contact with them (as Jesus Christ directs us to do see Matt 18). No wonder then, that at the beginning of the liturgical year the Church employs the imperative Excita Stir up! 2022 TheCatholicSpirit.com. Its very uncatholic to pretend you belong to an exclusive club. FSSP en MEXICO - Oficial 14.7K subscribers Subscribe Like Share 1.8K views 1 year ago Esto es una pequesima muestra de lo que da identidad a la FSSP. Since becoming a sedevacantist, I have broken contact w/many of my family who consider themselves to be traditional catholics even as they stopped believing in confession when they were in college, attended mass whenever they feel like it, but always go to communion, are sterilized, use birth control, are divorced and remarried, are pro-abortion, are pro-homosexual marriage, dont believe anyone is going to hell, believe everyone is saved w/out being baptized or Catholic, are married to unbaptized persons, never go to mass, raise their children w/these values, never prayed the rosary with their children who are now 35 etc. There is, in any event, no SSPX or sedevacantist chapel within easy driving distance of me even if I wanted to go. He replaces Fr. We have apostasy and heresy within the bosom of Holy Mother Church. The war is here where will the FSSP stand? Saguto is an excellent priest but he needs to stop perpetuating this lie and he needs to order his priests to do the same. In all charity and respect to you, I want you to know that I did look at your video, but have noted that errors have been found with the modern-day Lazarus story. Hello john6. If I found myself in a place where only an SSPX or Norvus Ordo were available, I would choose the SSPX, hands down, and I would know it was valid thanks to Fr. In fact, there seems to be an unspoken standard for comparison about what constitutes a home: home is supposed to be a place of security, stability, and safety, a place where one found love and learned about life, was educated and allowed to mature, so as to engage and contribute well to the larger world outside it, and remained always a place one can return to for a needed respite. Im the same age as the Pope but even Fr. First of all whatever myself or others comment here does not mean that this is louies position or that he even agrees with the comment. Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. One of the greatest problems facing Catholics who are trying to understand the crisis is a lack of distinctions and a lack of proper definitions. But I am going to check your topics before I read further. We are loathe to believe that our leaders could possibly mislead us, even to the point where certain propositions set forth in an ecumenical council are a danger to the faith. Subjectively, the pope will recognize their jurisdiction at that point. Father Wolfe has been transferred. St. Catharines, ON Without Me, you can do nothing (Jn. Paul has been designing and carving ecclesiastical interiors for the past several years. But everyone one who has signed off on VII by professing obedience to it and its heresiarchs is outside the Church. Alarico, thank you for bringing this to my attention. Catholics are watching and waiting. Michael Voris right now has a post up attacking the SSPX and he directly links to the FSSP site in Scotland and names Father John Emerson FSSP. It was not accepted due to faulty translations. Philadelphia, PA If he so desired, in this year of mercy, to also grant them jurisdiction, TMAHICH could do so. Perhaps bc of those such as yourself who have been poorly & even cruelly treated by a sedevacantist somewhere along the line, some proceed to make vast generalizations. Anyone who reads Louies blog should, by now, have developed an awareness of the dismal state of affairs in the Church. I worship in an SSPX Parish and I know full well why Im there. Harrisburg, PA With respect, atttempts to moderate commmenters on this site have been undertaken by other commenters here before, going back years. I didnt see you mention (granted -perhaps I missed it?) Omaha, NE North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA. This side of eternity, there will always be a certain obscurity to Faith because God wishes that we walk in trust of Him; He wants to lead us because our sanctification is His work with our cooperation. http://youtu.be/eXxOLNRBdXw. Unite such an invocation with our Lords true presence in the nearest Tabernacle, a most important and obvious belief of the Holy Faith. FSSP International I hope Catholics will be protected from those responsible. However, there are a couple of ways to regain perspective and renew vigor. Questions: Prior to working at CNA, she was the managing web editor of Townhall.com; she has a BA in. It ended up punishing students and staff for what were, allegedly, the failings of the administration. Wolfe has apparently been rather willing to speak about Vatican II in strongly condemnatory terms, and he also openly criticized Pope Francis in various sermons, although typically on weekdays when they are not recorded. Will you also look at the links I posted above? If we want to be charitable, we could possibly say that its because of the treatment of sedevacantists described above, that a small number of sedes respond to other trads in a kind of a backlash mode, if you will. Have you noticed the fall off in comments by the regulars? This definition of Tradition is what the FSSP publicly holds as a condition of being received into new church. They do not understand epikeia at all it seems to me. His first Mass in Seattle will be on Sunday, October 5th and it will be a sung Mass. Dear de Maria, thank you for the time in answering my question. Mr Carroll has turned ChurchMilitant.com into his Ideological Toy. It includes those who, through no or >>limited<>>limited<<< fault of their own. Take any good news with a grain of salt when it comes from modernists. 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