LARRY LIEBER: I would imagine it's a statement of some kind that you sign or you write. [20] For another series, starring the Human Torch from the Fantastic Four, Lieber co-created the longstanding supervillain the Wizard in Strange Tales #102 (Nov. 5 Dec 1947. No. I assumed, seeing a man walk out of the office and tear his artwork up, that or I thought probably they were rejected and he was annoyed or disgusted. Since 2021 the record price for this artist at auction is 650 USD for Lieber Larry - The Amazing Spider-Man, sold at . Larry Lieber's work has been offered at auction multiple times, with realized prices ranging from 130 USD to 650 USD, depending on the size and medium of the artwork. MR. TOBEROFF: That's okay. English Wikipedia. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Wikipedia (15 entries) edit. LARRY LIEBER: No. That started out with my brother writing it and me drawing it, penciling it, and it didn't do well and he finally said I could write it, and I wrote that for a while. Early life. Jack Lieber (father) (L-R) Stan, Jack, Larry and Celia. LARRY LIEBER: He made up a character and he wanted and he asked me to write it. Jeff Rovin came from Warren, and he knew nothing about color comics. Jack might have been I think Jack was the first. I was very young and I had a couple of jobs. So at any rate finally I think at one point he got a little exasperated and he said, "I'm going to hire some of the old pros." MS. SINGER: Objection. I simply wouldn't have the time to continue with The Fantastic Four, The Hulk, Spider-Man and the other odd Western, mystery, romance, humor, and assorted monster tales I was writing and still do justice to our newest feature yet a'borning. Yes, sure. Stan, I guess. Thanks to family connections, he got a job at the publishing company Timely. LARRY LIEBER: Yes, it was my understanding. For roughly a year and a half, he lived in the since-defunct Hotel Manhattan Towers, a residence hotel at Broadway and West 76th Street in Manhattan. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah. 1930s - living) 0 references . Enjoyed this? Q: You mentioned that Stan would give you the synopsis or the plot. Facebook gives people the power to. "[8], At 17, Lieber became a messenger for The New York Times and also found work at the Times Square studio of Sam Furber, a letterer whose work included movie posters. Q: And who asked you to write the first script for Iron Man? Q: Is that because those pages were originally ripped in half? And I thought "Henry" sounded like a scientist and "Pym" made it catching and different and exotic. Q: What was your understanding of why or your impression of why Jack Kirby was upset when he tore these up and threw them in the trash? I was very young and I had a couple of jobs. He additionally began writing it in early 1979. Alta Ann (Lieber) Troxel 11 Sep 1934 Jennings, Decatur County, Kansas, USA - 24 Mar 2019 managed by Larry Fisher last edited 13 May 2021. I don't know. Marvel legend Stan Lee rightfully gets credit when discussing the most important creators at Marvel, alongside Steve Ditko, Joe Simon Jack Kirby, and others. Anthony Stark. So it wouldn't look like it wouldn't just be a short story, it would be it would describe the Don Rico, writing as "N. Korok", followed for a two-issue stint. Good pause. Larry Lieber was born in Manhattan, New York City, New York, the second child of Romanian Jewish immigrant parents Celia (Solomon) and Jack Lieber, and the brother of the nearly nine years older Stanley Martin Lieber, later best known as Marvel Comics editor and impresario Stan Lee. Married 2 children together. So I could never do that. Q: We don't have to worry about I'm focusing you, I'm sorry, I'm focusing you on the period 1958 to 1965. It would be panel by panel. I think the Ant-Man, I think it was Jack Kirby who drew it, so I would have either sent it to him, if it was late, or I would have brought it to the office and then handed it to Stan. Q: Actually, I said "correct," so your MR. TOBEROFF: Objection to form. Also I think its even more dramatic than [the] Spider-Man [comic strip]". I try to finish it, but sometimes I can't, so he just sees roughs, but that is good enough for him to get the idea if I captured the scene right. Sitelinks. I made that, which people know about. Discover Larry Lieber's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. IT GOT THREE . But he always used it. Stan had said he had an idea for a character, he wanted to write the story and for one of the books and told me or gave me, you know, a synopsis and I went home and wrote it. Q: And just to be clear, the when you wrote the script for Ant-Man, that was also with the full breakdown of the panels? MS. SINGER: Objection. There were various page rates. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. I don't recall. As Lieber recalled it to comics historian Daniel Best, "My mother died when I was 16. Larry Lieber, who scripted the initial appearances of Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man, Loki, Fin Fang Foom, and other heroic and villainous characters in the Marvel Universe, has sued Marvel/Disney for a bigger portion of the pie. I'm a little unclear about leaving the superheroes and going to Rawhide Kid. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. I don't recall. I had a furnished room in somebody's apartment. Some of these stories were even co-written with his brother Stanley Lieber aka Stan Lee. Q: So you came up with the name Anthony Stark? One of the things I had to do was to cut rates and tell people they were going to make less money, which was not an enviable position. Q: That was my next question. There's an incredible amount of material here so what I'm going to do is break down and excerpt stuff that jumps out at me. Q: And do you recall that those words or something to that effect being on the back of every check you got from Marvel for that period from 1958 to '65? Stan was writing it and after a while The Hulk wasnt doing well and Stan decided to give it up, or give up his part. [6] Lee elsewhere described that move to a two-story, three-bedroom home at 1084 West Broadway as occurring in 1949,[7] when Larry would have been 17 or 18. Q: Have you ever submitted a, what we call a declaration or affidavit in connection with a lawsuit? Slowly surveying our entire, vast writing staff which mainly consisted of myself and any occasional freelancer who happened to wander in to make a free phone call my gaze happened to fall upon Larry Lieber and I remembered that he had many times expressed a desire to write a superhero story. LARRY LIEBER: The Marvel style is what Stan did, or I think I said in the interview it began around the time of the super-heroes and with Jack Kirby, perhaps with others, I don't know. Q: And your brother is? Q: How did you get paid for the work that you were doing for Marvel, 1958 to 1965? MR. TOBEROFF: Objection as to form. The artist would lay it out and draw it with enough knowledge about what the story is and leave room for dialogue to come later. View the profiles of people named Larry Lieber. Lambiek Comiclopedia artist ID. None whatsoever. Date of Birth: August 15, 1885. It would be sent to the artist, I would guess. I used to get names out of the back of the dictionary, from the biographical section where you have foreign names, Russian, this and that. So that was my first victory if you want to call that a victory, right. Thanks to Daniel Best for posting these public transcripts online. LARRY LIEBER: Well, either I sent it to the person. After that, after the Hulk, Stan left. Stanley Martin Lieber, aka Stan Lee Lawrence D. "Larry" Lieber NY Death Cert # 027187. LARRY LIEBER: I always wrote the script first, except later on, I Aftre a while, I'd just go to the typewriter. Lee has one younger brother, comic book artist and writer Larry Lieber. LARRY LIEBER: He would go over it and, as I said, if it were in the early years, he might correct or change a line or two. 7. . His parents were Romanian Jewish immigrants. We're going to focus today on the period from 1958 to 1965, so that's fine. Martin unfortunately put Jeff in charge of all the color comics and put me in charge of the black-and-white books. Martin unfortunately put Jeff in charge of all the color comics and put me in charge of the black-and-white books. Maybe they then sent them to you at home. Q: Did he ever make changes to your stories or the scripts you would turn in? It depends. Q: And how did you come up with his name? Q: Do you know who came up with the idea for Thor? I was unsure of myself just sitting down to write a script. From his 2010 deposition: 17 (break in testimony) LARRY LIEBER: Well, this must have been a Hulk story and I have the originals at home. Celia Lieber (born Solomon) was born in 1894, at birth place, to Zanfer Solomon and Sophia Solomon. I'm not certain whether it was at the same time they were working for Marvel. . LARRY LIEBER: You mean as opposed to cash? I wrote The Rawhide Kid and I drew it. As Lieber recalled of those creature features, Stan made up the plot, and then he'd give it to me, and I'd write the script. So once again I was writing and drawing, and that I enjoyed even more than the Rawhide Kid. [11] This included creating the names of their respective alter egos: Don Blake, Tony Stark, and Henry Pym. And so, no, not that I recall. Assumes facts. [18] I needed someone to write the new feature, which would hopefully be Marvel's fourth winner in our little superhero sweepstakes. Larry Lieber is an American artist who was born in 1931. LARRY LIEBER: I don't recall the exact words, but the gist of it was that I was giving up all rights to it, that the work, you know, now is with the company and and I don't remember the exact wording, but I think it was something "giving up your rights" or "all rights." I'm sorry. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Larry has testified in both Federal and State courts on the subjects of computer . And it was kind of fun and he liked what I did. [4] Already interested in art and drawing by this time, he attended George Washington High School there. Walt Disney Co. has targeted several legendary comic book artists with lawsuits seeking to decisively establish that it owns the rights to Marvel superheroes they helped create. children: Jan Lee, Joan Celia Lee. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus. When I went there, Martin put out two kinds of books. MS. SINGER: Good work. Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid; and for illustrating the newspaper comic strip The Amazing Spider-Man for many years and continuing as of 2014. Stan was born in New York City, to Celia (Solomon) and Jack Lieber, a dress cutter. Q: The way when we talked about the first script for Iron Man and the first script for Thor and the first script for Ant-Man, were those Marvel style? Tudor City had a park, and when it was nice I'd sit there and break the story down picture by picture. I would see what they're doing and go back or whatever the hell it was. I didn't think about it at all. I'm sorry, what? But I don't yeah, yeah, Stan. I'm sorry. Discover your ancestry - search Birth, Marriage and Death certificates, census records, immigration lists and other records - all in one family search! Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Oct 26 1931 - New York City, New York, USA, Oct 26 1931 - Manhattan, New York City, New York, United States, Jacob Aaron Lieber, Celia Lieber (born Solomon), Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/194676861/jacob-aaron-lieber, New York, New York County, NY, United States. Usually, there were six panels on a page and I would describe the action in the first in the first panel. I didn't, you know, and I didn't know what it was. Find out about Stan Lee's family tree, family history, ancestry, ancestors, genealogy, relationships and affairs! Q: Okay. And as time went on, he had fewer to make."[14]. LARRY LIEBER: I'm sorry, I When Larry Lieber went back 'on record', he was being question by Toberoff, who is acting for the Kirby Estate) Suddenly on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at his home. He said, "Write this," and, you know, sometimes I would write, and if it was weekend, I wouldn't wait until Monday to bring it into the office to give it to Stan, but I remember going over to the West Side, the main post office at night and mailing it. Q: Okay. Q: Do you know who, after you turned in the script, do you know who the artist was that drew Thor? LARRY LIEBER: Oh, no. There were artists and writers who had worked I was almost the only one in the profession who couldn't work for another company, which, in this case, the most likely one would have been DC, because Stan was my brother. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah. [8], In 1980 and 1981, concurrent with the Hulk strip, Lieber contributed some degree of penciling on the daily and Sunday comic strip The Amazing Spider Man until Fred Kida took over as regular penciler. Now, I knew nothing about black-and-white comics, right? Lieber Married Celia Solomon May 5th, 1920; Manhattan, NY NY Marriage Cert # 013005 Residence records include: ===== 510 Brinley Ave, Apt 10 Beadley Beach, NJ (1955) Father of: ===== Stanley Martin Lieber, aka Stan Lee . Serving during the Korean War, he spent two of those years stationed at Okinawa,[4] after having done his boot-camp training at the since-defunct Sampson Air Force Base, near the Finger Lakes region of New York State. [26] Lee then offered him the editorship of Marvel UK, the New York City-based imprint that produced black-and-white reprint comics for the UK market, as well as new stories of the superhero Captain Britain. Q: Did they did Marvel provide you with any paid vacation? For another series, starring the Human Torch from the Fantastic Four, Lieber co-created the longstanding supervillain the Wizard in Strange Tales #102 (Nov. 1962). Q: And just to follow up on something you said, you mentioned a letterer, what was the job of the letterer? . Q: Let's talk about The Rawhide Kid. Earlier today we reported that the heirs of artist Steve Ditko had . His office accepts new patients. As Lieber explained, Lee, wasn't always the most patient person and I had problems [writing] the dialogue and he said, "Why did you say that? Were the scripts that you wrote for Iron Man, Ant-Man and Thor, were those Marvel style? [9], Career[edit] Early work[edit] In 1941 Lee had been made the editor of Timely Comics, the future Marvel Comics, a division of a publishing company owned by a relative, Martin Goodman. [11], Hulk and Spider-Man comic strips[edit] In 1978, Lieber began penciling and sometimes inking the new daily and Sunday comic strip The Incredible Hulk,[27] written by Lee and syndicated by the Register and Tribune Syndicate. Rachel (Lieber) Friedlender 01 Jan 1912 . LARRY LIEBER: No. Fury war-comics story or a standalone tale in one of the Marvel line of black-and-white magazines such as Vampire Tales or Haunt of Horror. Larry Lieber is Stan Lee's younger brother and wrote Marvel books in the sixties such as Iron Man, Thor and Rawhide Kid. He is a writer, known for Iron Man (2008), Avengers: Endgame (2019) and Ant-Man (2015). Finally, you know, he did like it and I was allowed to write the script and I got paid for the script. "[24] He considered seeking work at rival DC Comics, as some other Marvel writers and artists did, but found, "I was the only one who could never do that because that was the price for Stan being my brother. Q: That's fine. He graduated from Finch University Of Health Sciences Chicago Medical School in 1981. Q: So you got paid for the script but you weren't paid for your redoing the plot a number of times? 3: Randy's New Obsession? Marvel's Thor first appeared in August 1962's Journey into Mystery #83, with creation credits believed to be Jack Kirby (penciler/plotter), Stan Lee (editor/plotter) and Larry Lieber (scripter). I used to go to it and gets parts of names to put together."[17]. Stan's Family Marvel Jack Lieber and Celia Lieber - Parents. Facebook gives people the power to. LARRY LIEBER: In those days, yes. Q: When is the first time you heard the phrase "work made for hire," if any? LARRY LIEBER: I don't recall the exact words, but the gist of it was that I was giving up all rights to it, that the work, you know, now is with the company and and I don't remember the exact wording, but I think it was something "giving up your rights" or "all . Also I think it's even more dramatic than [the] Spider-Man [comic strip]". Last year, he and several others were called to give depositions in the Kirby family v Marvel case which involves the Kirby family's quest to terminate Marvel's copyrights on 45 characters Kirby helped create. Q: Did you ever look at the pencilled drawings after or look at the inked drawings or look at the final book after you had turned in the script? Q: When you would receive a check from Marvel, was there anything printed on the check besides, you know, your name and the amount? So I could never do that. In 2008, he was one of two recipients of that year's Bill Finger Award, which annually honors one living and one deceased comics creator. Q: in this photostat copy are scotch tape? Genealogy for Celia Lieber (Solomon) (1894 - 1947) family tree on Geni, with over 230 million profiles of ancestors and living relatives. I didn't have any steady work then. Devoted son of Issie and Marsha Lieber, and son-in-law of Jeannette and Rejean Gagne . Joan Lieber. Q: Moving to a different subject, you testified earlier that it was your recollection that there were legends on the back of checks you received from Marvel for your freelance work? LARRY LIEBER: No. My only experience was in the color comics. 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